tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1320126156594375642.post6813781670599018138..comments2024-03-27T11:02:08.037-05:00Comments on LEICA Barnack Berek Blog: OSKAR BARNACK AND THE EARLY HISTORY OF PHOTOGRAPHYLEICA Barnack Berek Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09055435560407011075noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1320126156594375642.post-48414561086127705002013-08-30T08:52:07.461-05:002013-08-30T08:52:07.461-05:00The camera had been in a fire many years ago, but ...The camera had been in a fire many years ago, but it was restored, in England, if I recall correctly. The camera is now part of the Leica museum. It is not on display, however, since all the museum pieces have been packed up already for the move from Solms to the new Leica headquarters at Leitz Park in Wetzlar.<br />Also please note: I wrote the article several years ago. Since then further research has proven that there was only on Ur-Leica and not two, as claimed by many Leica historians in the past. LEICA Barnack Berek Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09055435560407011075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1320126156594375642.post-36939082894021179892013-08-30T07:24:13.958-05:002013-08-30T07:24:13.958-05:00Heinz, this is one of the most detailed and concis...Heinz, this is one of the most detailed and concise articles I have read about the beginning of the Leica camera. I see you have the image of Barnack with his movie camera and an image of Barnack's motion picture camera. <br /><br />I have been unable to find out very little about Barnack's movie camera. Research on the net has turned up very little except for this article! Do you know if it still exists and if it is on display somewhere?<br />Thank you.<br /><br /><br />Wilf Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03066104748019749727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1320126156594375642.post-64335468375267756632012-09-15T15:23:34.104-05:002012-09-15T15:23:34.104-05:00Yes. I had the rare opportunity to see some of th...Yes. I had the rare opportunity to see some of them at the LHSA (International Leica Society) meeting in Minneapolis in 1980, which I sponsored. Of course these were copies of the motion pictures copied to video.LEICA Barnack Berek Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09055435560407011075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1320126156594375642.post-10332785356725696512012-09-15T14:45:18.695-05:002012-09-15T14:45:18.695-05:00Are any of the movie films that Oskar Barnack took...Are any of the movie films that Oskar Barnack took with the movie camera he built still in existence? It would be very interesting to see some of them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1320126156594375642.post-54554729146899694862012-08-23T10:41:42.116-05:002012-08-23T10:41:42.116-05:00Interesting. That should put this controversy to ...Interesting. That should put this controversy to rest once and for all.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15469641643604325593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1320126156594375642.post-45330024189151765702012-08-22T13:22:53.179-05:002012-08-22T13:22:53.179-05:00I just noticed that on the official Leica website,...I just noticed that on the official Leica website, in an article about Oskar Barnack, they write:<br />"From a device to test exposures for cinema film, he developed the Ur-Leica, arguably the first truly successful small-format camera in the world."<br />LEICA Barnack Berek Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09055435560407011075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1320126156594375642.post-55440774991286799592012-08-14T13:33:15.677-05:002012-08-14T13:33:15.677-05:00No, not at all. If there were photographs of the ...No, not at all. If there were photographs of the camera, there would be no confusion about this matter today. To my knowledge, there also aren't any photographs taken with it.LEICA Barnack Berek Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09055435560407011075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1320126156594375642.post-33109552995618234352012-08-14T13:18:21.769-05:002012-08-14T13:18:21.769-05:00That makes a lot of sense. Are there any photogra...That makes a lot of sense. Are there any photographs of the test camera or any examples of pictures taken with it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1320126156594375642.post-5790998102571473912012-08-14T12:31:00.732-05:002012-08-14T12:31:00.732-05:00I am fully aware of these differences. From the v...I am fully aware of these differences. From the very beginning I thought that it didn't make any sense for Barnack to build an exposure testing device that doubled the film format of the motion picture cameras from 18 x 24 mm to 24 x 36 mm. It also made no sense to build such a camera with variable exposure times when the motion picture camera was restricted to 1/40 sec. Already years ago I began to research this discrepancy. I always thought that there must have been a different exposure testing camera that preceded the Ur-Leica. There is definitely some literature that eludes to that fact. Even Barnack in his interview, the one reproduced in this article, mentions his test exposures which then gave him the impetus to build the Ur-Leica. The most direct reference to the test exposure camera having been a different device can be found in Theo Kisselbach's book from 1952, titled "Kleines Leica Buch" (Little Leica Book), where he writes: "When he worked with the motion picture camera, he built himself a small camera for test exposures, and that brought up his thought of small negatives again. They just needed to be bigger. He doubled it...to 24mm wide and 36mm long, and thus the format for the Leica had been created." LEICA Barnack Berek Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09055435560407011075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1320126156594375642.post-57956593836267954622012-08-14T11:34:40.975-05:002012-08-14T11:34:40.975-05:00There seems to be some confusion regarding Barnack...There seems to be some confusion regarding Barnack's exposure testing camera. Most material on this matter refers to the original prototype as the exposure testing device. Yet you clearly state that this is not so, that the test exposure camera preceded the Ur-Leica.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15469641643604325593noreply@blogger.com